American Sportworks Trail Wagon 200 - NO SPARK (2024)

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Can anyone confirm if the CDI on my 2011 American Sportworks Trail Wagon 200 (TW200) is AC or DC? I am not getting a spark, and I’ve replaced, the spark plug, the stator, the starting coil, the staring relay, the voltage regulator and the CDI. I have read the "GY6 150cc Ignition Troubleshooting Guide: No Spark?" but I don't have the kill switches, and cant really tell if the same trouble shooting steps apply to my buggy since it seems to be DC... my CDI did not have the 4 & 5 wires, so I assume it is DC. In which case, is there a troubleshooting method specific to DC CDI's?

For background, I received the buggy from an in-law who was about to junk it, it hadn't ran in years. The engine turns over just fine, and fuel is getting to the cylinder, and the battery has 13v.

Please help...

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Let see some pics of what you have??

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I spent a lot of time with my 2010 Yardsport 200 and became pretty familiar with it.
It is a DC CDI.
It had a kill switch on the electrical box above the engine, check that.

ASW/ALM made changes throughout the series so your machine is specific and I found that ASW wasn't always up to date with their documentation.

Did you buy the new parts from ALM or did you do the guess your best on the internet?

I had trouble with the ignition switch filling up with water. ALM was making the switch harness upside down with the drip loop going up instead of down, the electrical contact area was all corroded, check that

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Snaker said:

I spent a lot of time with my 2010 Yardsport 200 and became pretty familiar with it.
It is a DC CDI.
It had a kill switch on the electrical box above the engine, check that.

ASW/ALM made changes throughout the series so your machine is specific and I found that ASW wasn't always up to date with their documentation.

Did you buy the new parts from ALM or did you do the guess your best on the internet?

I had trouble with the ignition switch filling up with water. ALM was making the switch harness upside down with the drip loop going up instead of down, the electrical contact area was all corroded, check that

Where is this switch above the engine? I do not see it.

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mcraighead11 said:

Where is this switch above the engine? I do not see it.

If you have one it should be obvious on the electric box above the engine.
Mine is a red button switch with a "kill" label next to it

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Snaker said:

I spent a lot of time with my 2010 Yardsport 200 and became pretty familiar with it.
It is a DC CDI.
It had a kill switch on the electrical box above the engine, check that.

ASW/ALM made changes throughout the series so your machine is specific and I found that ASW wasn't always up to date with their documentation.

Did you buy the new parts from ALM or did you do the guess your best on the internet?

I had trouble with the ignition switch filling up with water. ALM was making the switch harness upside down with the drip loop going up instead of down, the electrical contact area was all corroded, check that

I am having a problem with my yard sport not getting any spark I’ve ran checks there are little to no YouTube fixes or anything about these I can not get it to spark I’ve spent 20 plus hours I have new stator cudi voltage regulator coils everything can not get it to spark any advice would be great

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Two things come to mind
1. The ignition switch (mentioned earlier)
It can be tricky to test with a meter.
On mine the back of the switch was corroded from water
The ignition circuit was ok in the on position but bad in the start position

2. The main fuse is a glass cartridge located in the electric box above the engine, a real rats nest.
I had trouble with mine
It was in the crappyist fuse holder I've ever seen.
The holder was just a plastic cover
The wires had terminal clamps that tightly clamped the end caps
After a while, probably from vibration, the fuse clamps broke the fuse caps loose from the glue
The fuse didn't blow, it just had a bad connection with the fuse element inside
Again it might pass a meter test
I replaced the fuse holder with a auto style blade fuse holder (marine grade)
I also relocated the holder outside of the electric box so it was accessible during a ride (carry spares)

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American Sportworks Trail Wagon 200 - NO SPARK (2024)

FAQs

How do I troubleshoot no spark? ›

A spark should be visible in the tester. If no spark appears, check for broken wires, shorts, grounds or a defective stop switch. Once you have confirmed that the stop switch is working, reconnect the spark plug lead.

What does it mean when a bike has no spark? ›

A motorcycle might not be able to produce a spark for various reasons, such as a faulty spark plug, ignition coil, spark plug wire, ignition switch, dead battery, faulty stator/regulator/rectifier, etc.

Why does my ATV turn over but no spark? ›

If you do not get a spark, the ignition coil is bad and needs to be replaced. You can also check the kill switch by connecting the spark plug wire directly to the coil. Crank the engine and see if you get a spark. If you do get a spark, then the kill switch is not working properly and needs to be repaired or replaced.

Will stator cause no spark? ›

The stator coil generates the power for the spark plug and other accessories on small engines Without a stator there would be no spark at all, meaning the engine won't run. While a stator is dying, it can produce a weak spark, causing the engine to miss or run poorly. Symptoms are often worsened as the engine warms up.

Can an ignition relay cause no spark? ›

If the ignition relay shorts, burns out, or otherwise fails while the engine is operating it will cut off power to the fuel pump and ignition system. This will cause the vehicle to immediately stall due to fuel and spark being cut off.

Can a bad module cause no spark? ›

If the ignition module has failed completely, the vehicle won't get spark and won't start.

What is the most common cause of no spark? ›

If no spark appears, check for broken wires, shorts, grounds or a defective stop switch. Once you have confirmed that the stop switch is working, reconnect the spark plug lead.

How to tell if a stator is bad? ›

If you find yourself frequently jump-starting your ATV or replacing the battery, it may be time to inspect the stator. 2. Dim or Flickering Lights Another clear indication of stator problems is dim or flickering lights, including headlights and taillights.

How do I know if my ATV stator is bad? ›

Take one meter lead and hook it to the connector, then take the second one and hook it to the body of the stator. The meter should say "OL" which stands for, "open line," if it's working correctly. If not, the stator is bad. Check it multiple times to cover each coil/winding/phase to make sure they all pass.

How to test for spark on ATV? ›

Disconnect the spark plug wire and connect the plug tester to the wire. Next, connect the other end of the tester to an unpainted metal area on the engine and attempt to turn the motor over. A spark in the tester confirms that you're getting electricity through the plug wire.

What sensor would cause no spark? ›

The crankshaft sensor and coil pickup are both important parts of the ignition system, and if they are both not working properly, it can cause your car to have no spark. One possibility is that the ignition module is bad.

How to tell if stator or rectifier is bad? ›

You'll note signs right away like poor starts, fluctuating meter readings, and dimmed headlights. around 13 volts, the bike will start to drain the battery. When this happens, it's only a matter of time before the engine stops completely.

Will a bad CDI box cause no spark? ›

While a CDI box is not the only potential cause of no spark in an engine, it is certainly one possibility. If your engine is not sparking, it may be due to a problem with the CDI box.

What to check if a car has no spark? ›

If the ignition coil does not have spark, it's time to check its wires. Use a test light to check the continuity on the signal wire and power wire on the ignition coil. If both wires are functional but the coil fails to produce spark, the ignition coil or the ignition control module is bad.

What would cause a spark plug not to fire? ›

Spark plugs may become less effective at doing their job due to time, wear, or other electrical/ignition system issues. They may become "fouled" over time due to combustion, contamination, or overheating, losing their ability to spark the air-fuel mixture and dissipate heat away from the combustion chamber.

What would cause a truck not to have spark? ›

No spark from ignition coil

Your engine may not start if an ignition coil isn't firing up a spark plug. It could be a faulty coil, a poor connection to the ignition coil, or a control module that's causing the problem.

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